506 FXUS02 KWBC 041754 PMDEPD EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 154 PM EDT SAT JUL 04 2009 VALID 12Z TUE JUL 07 2009 - 12Z SAT JUL 11 2009 MODELS AND ENSEMBLES CONTINUE TO SHOW A REASONABLY SIMILAR LARGER SCALE MEDIUM RANGE FLOW PATTERN ACROSS MUCH OF NOAM. THIS PERSISTENT PATTERN HAS PRETTY MUCH BEEN PREVALENT FOR THE LATE SPRING/EARLY SUMMER AS COMPRISED ALOFT OF COOLING MEAN TROUGHS CENTERED ALONG/JUST OFF THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST COAST AND DOWNSTREAM OVER ERN NOAM...SANDWICHING HOT MID-US RIDGING. WHILE FORECAST CONFIDENCE IN THE LARGER SCALE PATTERN IS RELATIVELY GOOD...RUN TO RUN CONSISTENCY/SENSITIVITY WITH EMBEDDED SMALLER SCALE SYSTEMS/INTERACTIONS/SENSIBLE WEATHER FOCUS AND INCREASED MODEL AND ENSEMBLE MEMBER SOLUTION SPREAD POINTS TO MUCH LOWER PREDICTABILITY AND FORECAST CONFIDENCE. ENSEMBLE MEANS CERTAINLY PROVIDE BETTER RUN TO RUN CONSISTENCY...BUT AT THE PRICE OF INCREASINGLY BLAND SYSTEM DEPICTIONS OVER TIME DURING THE WARM SEASON IN PARTICULAR. THIS REMAINS TRUE EVEN IN THIS TYPE OF PATTERN THAT SEEMS TO HAVE SOME DECENT EMBEDDED SYSTEMS WITH DEFINED SURFACE FEATURES AND GRADIENTS DAYS 4-7. ACCORDINGLY...PREFER DAYS 4-7 TO NOT PREFER ANY SOLUTION PER SE BUT INSTEAD DAMPEN SMALLER SCALE DETAILS OF THE 00 UTC ECMWF BY BLENDING 30% 06 UTC GFS IN LUE OF ENSEMBLE MEAN USAGE. HOWEVER...FINAL HPC PROGS OFFER SOME MANUAL ADJUSTMENTS FROM OUR PRELIM GUIDANCE TO MORE FAVOR A DEEPER NERN US TROF SOLUTION TUE INTO WED AS PER SHORT RANGE DESK PREFERRENCE AND FAVORABLE UPSTREAM FLOW...TRENDING TOWARD THE 12 UTC GFS. HOWEVER...WE SEE NO COMPELLING REASON TO CHANGE HPC CONTINUITY FOR OUR FINAL PROGS FOR LATER NEXT WEEK INTO NEXT WEEKEND AS THE 12 UTC GFS HAS TRENDED TOWARD OUR PRELIM GUIDANCE SOLUTIONS. THE 00 UTC ECMWF OFFERS DECENT LARGER SCALE CONTINUITY AND FITS THE PERSISTENT PATTERN A LITTLE BETTER COMPARED TO RECENT GFS RUNS THAT HAS TENDED TO FILL THE NORTHEASTERN TROUGH TOO MUCH BY THE END OF THE PERIOD...A BIAS SEEN IN THIS MODEL SINCE THE SPRING. IN THIS PATTERN THE ECMWF AND ECMWF ENSEMBLES FOCUS MORE TROFFING ALOFT OFFSHORE THE WRN US THU-SAT WHICH LEADS TO MORE DOWNSTREAM TROFFING THAN THE GFS AND GFS/NAEFS ENSEMBLE MEANS THROUGH THE GREAT LAKES/MIDWEST THEN ERN US. PREFER THOUGH TO STILL BLEND IN 30% 06 UTC GFS DUE TO UNCERTAINTY AND CONSIDERING ECMWF ENERGY TRANSFER CHANNELED BETWEEN NRN CANADIAN CLOSED VORTEX ENERGY AND CENTRAL US RIDGING MAY WELL BE SOMEWHAT OVERDONE/DEFINED. CISCO/SCHICHTEL $$